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There seems to be some fascination with newer/beginning traders to find this perfect setup, this small set of circumstances that give price action the appearance of a great trade opportunity. You’ve probably heard about these patterns and setups before, often referred to as Pin Bars, Engulfing Bars, Inside Bars, etc.

Beginning traders become hypnotized, thinking these price action patterns are all you need learn to trade the market, as if trading were a fashion contest, and your goal is to find the best dressed setup.

The problem is, this is a really confined view as these patterns are more often the result of order flow – not the cause of it.
 
A Means, Not the Reason
These price action setups discussed above, are a means to get into the market, not the reason why you should be. And it’s often the case, they are the secondary reason why you should be entering the market.
The reason why you should be getting into the market, is because your understanding of the price action & order flow in the overall market, gives you an over-weighted picture as to a clear direction in the market.

This direction could be for 20 minutes, hours, or even days.  The amount of time it will likely maintain that direction is not important.  That the price action gives you an over-weighted picture of the direction IS!

And when this happens, there is a trade opportunity.  If that opportunity offers you a good mathematical reward/risk play, then you should be trading it – not because of some picture perfect setup.

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Trading is Not A Fashion Contest
How many times have you seen a picture perfect setup that completely failed?  I’m willing to bet dozens of times, and if you trade long enough, hundreds or thousands of times.
Why is that?
Because trading is not a fashion contest where you are looking for the best dressed setup.  Because price action setups can and will fail, which should communicate to you – not to become fascinated with finding the perfect price action setup.
What it should mean, is you want to develop your ability to read the overall picture of the market, understand the order flow behind it, learn to read the impulsive and corrective price action.  Then, look for an over-weighted scenario.  Once you find it, check the math to see if it’s favorable.  If so, then take the trade.
 
Missing High Quality Signals
If you are always on the hunt for the perfect setup or trade, you will likely be completely missing high quality signals passing by right in front of you.
The greatest mistake of higher time frame traders is they often do not take great trades that are right in front of them, because they are waiting for the ‘perfect‘ setup – one that will hit them over the head.
The problem is in passing up these trades, they are also passing up high quality signals that offer a mathematical edge and profits.

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Ironically, the greatest fallacy of intraday traders is they will often take trades that are not there, or not of high quality.  Although it may seem like the former is better than the latter, both are the same!
The higher time frame trader makes a lot less profit because they pass up really high quality signals, looking for their perfect match.
Meanwhile, the intraday trader while often having more profits, generally has slightly more losses, because they are taking trades that are not there.  Their upside is higher for executing their edge more, but the extra losses pull them back.
Thus, when you really see this clearly, these are two sides of the same coin!  The trick is to find the balance and wisdom of the two, not to stay on one side of it.  This is the knot of trading you have to untie.
 
A Fantasy World
Spending your time looking for the perfect setup is living in a fantasy world.  It’s like looking for the perfect partner – how many people have you really met that have one? How many people have you met thought they found one, & were completely wrong? Food for thought – but trading is not a fashion contest, and it’s not about looking for the perfect setup.
 
Same Setup – Different Result
There are many times several of my price action traders spot the same exact setup, yet end up with completely different results.
How could that be?

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Because they managed the trade differently. One took profits a little early (but still ended up profitable), while the other caught a huge portion of the move.
Although it may seem like this one trade may not mean much – it means a lot if its repeated.
When trader A encounters a series of losses (and you will, regardless of your strategy), their downside will be more severe and they will take more time to recover.  However when trader B encounters the same downside period, their recovering will be faster, because they padded on more alpha to their trading account.  For them, it only takes a few large wins to erase a lot of losses.
Keep in mind, they both spotted the ‘perfect price action setup‘, yet they both had different levels of profits.
What was the difference?  In how they managed the trade.
This should be communicating to you, what is far more important than finding the ‘perfect’ price action setup, is learning how to manage the trade.  And this really comes down to three things;
1) Understanding Risk Management
2) Learning to Read Price Action In Real Time
3) Managing Your Emotions/Mental State
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Perhaps you can find the perfect setup, but fail to do the three above, & your perfect setup is powerless to deliver consistent profits.  Bells should be going off in your head now about what you should be spending your time studying.  It’s not how to spot a pin bar, or engulfing bar, or some other magical bar.  It’s about setups, price action and context.
These pin bars, engulfing bars, or any bars are easy to find, and take little mental effort.  The learning process for this should be short.
But the learning process for the three things I listed above prior, should be never-ending.
I understand why many of you have made this mistake.  There are these so called ‘authorities‘ and ‘masters‘ (notice self-labeled as no peer will call them that), who claim you only need 3 of these ‘setups’ to understand the market.  That these great setups only occur on higher time frames, that intraday price action trading is to be loathed, that accuracy and profitability has a linear relationship with time frames.
Ah yes, and don’t forget the three golden setups – how convenient!  As if a market with over a million participants, composed of retail & institutional traders, hedge funds, banks/brokers, pension funds, HFTs, intraday traders, swing traders, long term position traders, etc. are all subdued by these overlords of price action patterns.
High quality signals occur on every time frame, and there are profitable traders across the world trading on almost every time frame.  Intraday price action trading is not to be loathed – that is just a personal feeling of some, while a ATM machine for others.
Who is right?  Neither – thus don’t hate intraday trading because it doesn’t work for you. The greatest mistake a trader can do, is to think their world and thoughts about reality – ARE REALITY!  As if your wisdom and insight is so brilliant, so total, so complete, that it has a monopoly on the truth about trading.
Does that sound reasonable to you?  Or does it seem more likely there are many ways to trade successfully, and the best way is what’s comfortable for you.
Just remember, what may be comfortable for you, may not be for another, and neither one individually is reality by itself.

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Heed the wisdom of Obi-Wan Kenobi who once said, ‘Only a Sith sees in absolutes‘. Don’t be the Sith in trading, or follow a Sith.
Find wisdom in things, then find what is most comfortable for you, while constantly challenging yourself to take things to the next level.  Rarely ever where you start this journey (both in trading and in life) is where you end up.  Thus remember, trading is not a fashion contest, but it is about managing risk, your mental state, and learning how to read and trade price action in real time.
 

If you think this article is going to be about learning a price action setup, you’re wrong, but it will be about something more powerful.  For your future, for your learning process, and for your sanity, keep reading this article if you are not consistently profitable.

Of all my articles, the most popular and commented ones are always on some specific setup or system.

Why?
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Because almost all of you have been hunting for the one system, that edge which will turn your trading around.  That edge which will print money into your account day after day, week after week without much effort.  You’ve probably amassed dozens of patterns and systems, yet still aren’t making money.

Sound familiar?

If so, don’t worry – that was me 12 years ago.

But I think it points to a problem for those hunting through forums, websites and videos looking for your pot of gold.  All of your focus and energy has been on finding a ‘system‘ or ‘price action setup‘ that makes money.

Sure, everyone wants their own ATM machine – who doesn’t?  But what is also going on is you want the market de-mystified.  You want trading to be simple and easy, i.e. thinking three simple setups will solve all your trading problems and help you understand the market.

Regardless, this underlies two things which will trip you up in trading;

1) The fallacy three simple price action setups will consistently make you money if you have good money management.

2) Being uncomfortable with uncertainty.

Today’s article will be focused on the first point, and the next article will be focused on the latter.

Three Simple Setups?  Really?
To begin, it is a complete fallacy that if you learn what a pin bar, inside bar and a fakeout system is + good money management = making money…that you understand and can trade price action.

How convenient that a market which has brought traders to its knees, crying, jumping out of windows after losing fortunes, that three simple setups and good money management (plus a little psychology) is all you need to be a profitable trader.

If that was the case, why isn’t everyone doing it?

Why are banks spending thousands of dollars, and months, if not years on end, training their traders, when there is such a conveniently packaged solution available?

My programmer was recently at a algo conference with some of the top hedge funds.  He told me they are spending hundreds of thousands of dollars re-programming their algos every 12-24 months to keep a competitive edge.

Why would they do this if they could just learn what a pin bar was, inside bar and fakeout setup is? Wouldn’t that be easier?

Newbie traders want to hear the market can be simplified into three price action setups, that trading with the trend and good money management is all you need.  It perpetuates a dream which is actually a false reality.

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This is why I have always talked about learning to read the price action in real time, that you cannot rely upon systems alone.  Yes, a pin bar can be a highly effective method for trading various price action situations.  But it always has to be taken in Context.

Two Scenarios
To demonstrate this point, lets take two scenarios;

1)  A bullish pin bar forms after a long trending move.  This trending move ended with an exhaustive candle which then proceeded to form a double bottom off a key support level.  The pin bar closed bullish and formed on the 2nd bottom also creating a 3 pip breakout below the lows.  Am I going to buy that pin bar if I get a corrective pullback towards the double bottom?

Absolutely!

I see that – I’m going to buy that.  The pin bar was a very good setup and price action cue for me.  But remember, pin bars can be both cause and the result of order flow.

However, we have the other pin bar scenario….

2) Price action has dropped 1000pips in the last two days.  Then in the middle of the Tokyo session forms a tiny pin bar on the 4hr time frame that closes bearish.  Am I going to buy that pin bar expecting the price to reverse?  NO!

Why???

Context!

You have to understand, there is nothing wrong with the pin bar by itself.  It can be a highly effective signal, or it can lead to losses.

What is the difference?

It’s not money management, or trading with the trend, or your psychology.

It’s the context with which it forms.  But to understand these differences, you have to learn to read price action in real time, and what it has done in the past around those levels.  That is the context you have to learn how to read.

Passive vs. Active Learning
To be sitting there passively, waiting for days on end for your three simple price action setups is trading in passive mode and flat out boring.  And boredom will actually interfere with your learning process.

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If you can only find one setup a week, you’re not looking hard enough because there are plenty.

There is no active learning, and active learning is what you need.  In active learning, you are engaging your resources, your current level of knowledge and applying it.  In passive learning, you are not engaging any of your knowledge and seeing how it works in real time, learning from the feedback loop called the markets.

If you are sitting on the sidelines for days on end, just waiting for your three simple setups, you’re wasting your time.  You could be learning, trying, studying, and participating in the market which is what facilitates learning.

I didn’t just learn what an inside bar was and then trade it based on what it should do.  I spent dozens of hours studying 1000’s of inside bars and pin bars, to see what was different between them all, and how did price action form after each unique one.

I have pages of notes about pin bars, how each one forms, its size in relation to the prior bar, where it forms in relation to the prior bar, in the trend, near the 20ema, in relation to the surrounding price action, support/resistance levels, etc, etc, etc.

I don’t just trade pin bars like a robot.  I trade them in context, and that is what gives me an edge, to be able to read the price action in real time, and what the market has done around current levels.

A Student
One of my students wrote just yesterday on this subject:

I am at that point where I know I want to be a full time trader. I absolutely believe that the strategies, models and methods we are taught in this course can lead to profitability, because I’m using them everyday and they lead to good profitable trades.

However, I have moved away from just seeing a pin bar or some other signal and just pulling the trigger, because I have moved toward understanding price action the way Chris talks about in his lessons, like he has done on breakouts, the aussie price action, the USDX, etc.

I believe that as traders we can trade these strategies and make some money, but we will not evolve as traders if we don’t begin to read and understand the price action that is occurring around these different setups.

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When I read this, I was nothing but smiles as the light went on.  This student gets it, and gets what I have been teaching.  He understands that pin bars, inside bars, and all the other methods have a purpose – but they are not the road and vehicle towards profitable trading.

Although they are highly informative about what the order flow is behind the price action, he understands they are both cause and result.  This means he understands sometimes they are the cause of order flow, and other times, they are the ‘result’ of order flow.  They are not simply just one or the other.

It also means he is spending his time learning to read the price action in real time, to understand what kinds of order flow would create such price action.  He is not passively waiting for setups, and then pulling the trigger like an automaton.  He understands that these setups have to be taken in context.

In Summary
Don’t waste your days on end in waiting mode for your simple three setups to occur.  Understand three simple setups will not lead you to profitable trading, nor understanding price action.  If it did, everyone would be doing it and that is all they would be teaching at banks and hedge funds.

Understand trading price action means learning to read price action in real time.  It means being an active and deliberate learner.

Understand that price action setups are highly valuable tools – but they have to be taken in context.  You have to learn to read what kind of order flow would create such price action, and how to trade this flow.

I hope this helps and that it changes the way you look at price action and your learning process.

Please make sure to leave your comment, like and share this post.

Kind Regards,
Chris

A somewhat common but important price action behavior, and Inside Bar is a candle that is completely inside the previous candles high and low.This is not just referring to the body, but the wicks as well being inside the previous candles price action.Why are inside bars important and how can they lead to trading opportunities.

Before we answer the question above we have to look into the reasons why this price action behavior takes place.There are several reasons for the inside bar forming, many of which we will list below;

  • Price is consolidating after a large up/down move in price and is about to start another leg in the same direction
  • Price is coming up against a critical support/resistance level which shows some hesitation in the market as to whether it will continue or not
  • Price Action and liquidity is dropping before a critical news announcement so with nobody taking new positions, price will not have enough order flow to move consistently in one direction
  • Profits are being taken

Regardless of what the reasons are, as traders we are most concerned with which situations are most likely to yield a price action trigger and a trading opportunity.Out of all the reasons listed below (and there are more) the least important is the news announcement as the environment leading up to a news announcement is generally recommended to be avoided due to poor liquidity.

However, all the others are critical for us because they tell us via price action what the market has done and is likely to do next via a price action trigger.

With that being said, lets look at a few inside bars and see how the price action leading up to them revealed information about why they were created and what is the likely next move.

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Below is another price action Inside Bar coming at a critical resistance level.See how the rejection on the 2nd attempt as it could not muster a close but only a wick at the previous resistance level? The next candle is an inside bar (not making any higher highs) and closes below the mid-point of the prior blue candle suggesting the bears are starting to wrestle control from the bulls.

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Another example of how price started a strong move and then formed a single inside bar. Price then barely made a new high (with the small wick to the upside on the next red candle) and then broke the low dropping another 300+pips. This is a common price action trigger after the formation of an inside bar.

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Inside bars form approximately 10% of the time (or are approximately 10% of all candles) and are a unique price action formation. When they occur and critical support / resistance levels (prior highs/lows, Fibonacci retracement levels, outer pivots, larger Kumo formations, etc) they have more impact and can often lead to strong price moves.Also watch out for Inside Bars occurring after a strong price action move. By analyzing the prior move, the wicks of the inside bar, the overall size of it and the price action of the next bar following the inside bar, we can gain an insight into the price action and where the next move is likely to be.

For more information on forex inside bar trading strategies, take a look at the Price Action Course where I share rule based strategies and triggers to trade inside bars.